Tried to use java for pulumi - it’s 3x amount of c...
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steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 7:50 PMTried to use java for pulumi - it’s 3x amount of code comparing to other langs like Python|TS
Kotlin could be so much better, but java code is generated in a way that can’t effectively utilize Kotlin features.
eg example here https://www.pulumi.com/docs/get-started/aws/modify-program/ could look like
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import com.pulumi.asset.FileAsset;
import com.pulumi.aws.s3.BucketObject;
import com.pulumi.aws.s3.BucketObjectArgs;
fun main() = Pulumi.run { ctx ->
// var bucket = ...
// Create an S3 Bucket object
BucketObject("index.html", BucketObjectArgs(
bucket = bucket.getId(),
source = new FileAsset("index.html"),
))
}m
mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:32 PMpersonally I think kotlin is the best designed programming language I've ever seen just because of the concept of companion objects.
We have an issue here and would love any thoughts that come to mind. https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi-java/issues/544
mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:32 PMlol just saw your comment
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steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 8:33 PMThanks I’ve already posted in this issue thread.
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steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 8:34 PMHaha, main language designer used to say that companion objects was the biggest mistake he made while designing Kotlin🤣
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mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:35 PMreally??? static fields/methods is so hard to read. just group all of the state and methods together. gonna look it up
mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:37 PMYour not supposed to use companion objects as a replacement for statics. You use package-level functions and extension functions. The only time you should ever use a companion object is for creating factory methods.the reasoning is the best thing I've ever read. yeah static is bad.
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steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 8:37 PMyep:)
You actually don’t need companion object to group static methods, just put it in separate file.
If you want to scope them - extension functions 🙂
steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 8:39 PMI think static is great:) I used to use functional programming with Kotlin(not in crazy Arrow way) and best way to do it is to have a bunch of static functions
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mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:40 PM👌that sounds nice. pulumi is written in go so I can only really use structs.
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steep-apple-98525
07/27/2022, 8:40 PMGo is a great language except for Generics implementation🤣
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mammoth-salesclerk-61945
07/27/2022, 8:50 PMI'm still getting used to Go's approach. I've just discovered tags while typing out this message to complain about default values.
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brave-dawn-64711
08/09/2022, 8:39 AMcc: @steep-minister-28895
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