I m talking with someone about and it soun

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I m talking with someone about <https cdk8s io > and it sounds a lot like pulumi but pulumi requires storing somewhere state whereas this doesn t What why does pulumi need to store in case of kubernetes if kubernetes already stores state in etcd

bland-lamp-16797 · Answer

great question but better question should be asked why terraform saves the state too Mainly because terraform pulumi work on clouds where you don t have state So k8s for pulumi is just a provider and pulumi has many providers

bland-lamp-16797 · Answer

but <http cdk8s io|cdk8s io> is definitely a project to keep a eye on If that project could import resouses from pulumi terraform it would be even better

creamy-potato-29402 · Answer

< incalculable dream 27508> the big reason originally was that we wanted to be able to offer a high fidelity preview step these days you could probably remove it and use the kube dry run functionality but there is no particular pressing need to do this especially since state is required for every single other provider

creamy-potato-29402 · Answer

I am biased even though I no longer work at pulumi but I flatly do not understand the point of cdk8s you get none of the benefits of CDK rollback dependency tracking waiting until the apply is complete etc since it simply generates YAML if you want a plain old typescript go whatever SDK why not just use the official kube SDKs

bland-lamp-16797 · Answer

I only assume it s because people don t know about kube SDK or they find it hard to use

bland-lamp-16797 · Answer

but yeah pulumi has CDK where cdk8s does not It s very important