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any ideas here?

Yeah, we still don’t have a great answer to this built in. However, since you’re using TypeScript, I actually do have a solution that might work well here: https://gist.github.com/lblackstone/d2d1c29507685c0833612988945dedf3 This was a hackday project from a couple months ago, and isn’t well tested, but you can use a streaming invoke to watch k8s events for the Service to be created. The dynamic provider may still be your best option, but this example happens to be exactly what you’re doing here.

this looks awesome! thanks @gorgeous-egg-16927, I will let you know how it went on my side, but this should make a trick