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b
Is the 409 coming from the cloud provider or pulumi?
n
@bored-oyster-3147 
pulumi up
spits it back
b
yes but is the error coming from AWS API or Pulumi API? Can you share the text?
n
yeah i see what you mean, um one second.
@bored-oyster-3147 i see this
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someLambda (aws:lambda:Function)
error: 1 error occurred:
	* updating urn:pulumi:<stack>::<name>::aws:lambda/function:Function::someLambda: Error modifying Lambda Function Code someLambda-a3069be: ResourceConflictException: The operation cannot be performed at this time. An update is in progress for resource: arn:aws:lambda:us-east-1:<accountId>:function:someLambda-a3069be
	status code: 409, request id: 85a622a7-42ab-4e6c-b2cd-23d89205182b
b
so that looks like it is coming from AWS. Naturally no pulumi operations will resolve this if it is a response from AWS. So you'll need to either resolve it there or wait for it to finish
n
not sure I’m following, https://www.pulumi.com/docs/troubleshooting/#conflict indicates that its either someone that changed something (which wouldn’t be in my situation, I’m the only dev deploying to this stack), or a bug happened in pulumi…
so what/where would i be able to see the process in aws for what I’m waiting for?
b
Pulumi is just surfacing you errors that are coming from AWS. So that would not mean that it is a bug on Pulumi's part, but perhaps that something has changed on the AWS side. A quick google search returns this forum post that was made today: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=995863
n
LOL, i’ve been searching for pulumi not aws since the pulumi docs do NOT indicate that we should be looking elsewhere… might be helpful to mention that. also, i’ve been googling, and that didn’t show up for me, but thx
b
It might be that Pulumi's AWS Provider needs to be updated to accommodate a change made in the AWS API surface, but Pulumi's AWS Provider is currently a bridge of Terraform's AWS Provider - so if you keep your eyes there, once an update is made there it will quickly bubble to Pulumi's Provider.
n
ok, yeah i was aware of the terraform, but wasn’t sure if that was aws or pulumi at this point. but thx for the insight, appreciate it
b
Perhaps the log message could better indicate that the error is from the cloud provider. I don't really think the docs need to be updated to reflect that. Anyways, good luck!
n
yeah, a better error, or something would be nice to quickly pinpoint
@bored-oyster-3147 i guess the real frustrating part is seeing this
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aws lambda get-function --function-name someFunctionName --query 'Configuration.[State, LastUpdateStatus]'
[
    "Active",
    "Successful"
]
b
I'm not sure I understand - what is frustrating?
n
it says 
Active
, yet i get the pulumi error 409 “pending operation”
so not sure what’s going on here, but something is lost in translation…
b
so I'm not sure how much more I can help you - if the issue is on the AWS side than you may have to seek help elsewhere. I would suggest you try making the change yourself, either via the aws-cli or via the API. If you get the same error, than it is an AWS problem. If you don't get the same error, but Pulumi still does, than you have verified that is a Pulumi problem and probably have the information for opening an issue on github.
n
yeah again, i appreciate the help, but when AWS is telling me it’s Active via cli lookup, that kind of pushes this off onto pulumi 🤷 but ill keep digging into it
b
That assumes that the AWS update endpoint is not failing even though the lambda returned Active, which hasn't been ruled out.
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