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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:16 AMhow are you guys holding up with travis?
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:17 AMI’m not sure I understand…
We just use the vanilla hosted option?
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:18 AMsorry, I meant are you happy with it?
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:19 AMI miss the more complex tools of my previous life at $bigcorp, but it’s ok for our purposes. Our biggest problem is not usually Travis itself, but packaging and releasing the actual Pulumi software.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:19 AMI literally looked at 20 CI/CD systems in the last week and none of ’em is truly awesome.
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:20 AMYeah. If you go to a mid-sized company like Lyft and walk onto the eng floor, you’ll see fully 1/3rd of the engineers have Jenkins open in a tab somewhere.
It isn’t amazing, but you can get the job done.
I’d like for Spinnaker to be dissolved into self-contained parts, personally.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:21 AMYeah but that’s my point. I think many solutions do good CI (like travis), but the CD part (which includes the releasing, in our case deploying to environments) is where most solutions are meh’ or too complex.
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:21 AMIndeed.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:24 AMyeah spinnaker has all the features that the average joe needs, but it’s complex in operation and (this is HUGE) it doesn’t allow you to configure your pipeline in code.
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:24 AMThat’s true, and super unfortunate. Especially since it breaks all the time. Best-in-class UX IMHO though.
(I have a lot of opinions about this because at the last company I worked, Heptio, the CTO was totalyl obsessed with an “exploded-out spinnaker”)
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:25 AMChecked out Azure Pipelines yesterday, their CD is actually pretty awesome. No operational overhead since it’s hosted, but again, you gotta assemble your pipeline via the UI.
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:26 AMThey are making progress. I will be curious to see where they get to, but my suspicion is that they believe the market that will pay is the market that wants web UI.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:26 AMwhat’s “exploded-out” ? 🙂
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:27 AMhttps://jocelynraine.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/toddmclellan3.jpg▾
😁 1
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:27 AMwell, I also want a web UI, but it should be more or less read-only 🙂
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:27 AMlike that, but with Spinnaker.
BTW. If you haven’t tried the
v0.17.0<gif uploading>
you probably want to upgrade your CLI as well.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:30 AMis there a changelog?
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:32 AMIt’s not a huge bunch of features in core, more like a refinement of the ideas we started with.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:41 AMi’m confused
why did you say 0.17.0 ?
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:42 AMpulumi-kubernetes is versioned separately from pulumi
i.e., the kubernetes bits are their own thing.
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glamorous-printer-66548
09/12/2018, 3:42 AMah ok
ok, will try to try it this week, but currently i gotta decide on our CD platform 😀
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 3:44 AMno worries