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# generals
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 9:58 PMIt is not slated for next release, but if there was a huge amount of demand, that might change the ship schedule. For me personally? I would rather wait for Go2, as it will be hard IMO to deliver as good an experience as we have with JavaScript and TypeScript.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 9:59 PMOh wait, we might be doing it over the next 2 releases.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 9:59 PMcc @incalculable-sundown-82514
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straight-cartoon-74589
09/12/2018, 9:59 PMThe go snippet really grabbed our attention on the website. Was disappointed to see it missing from kube. But typescript is certainly not a deal breaker.
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incalculable-sundown-82514
09/12/2018, 10:00 PMGo is on the schedule, but not for another month at a minimum with the current plans. There is a lot of engineering work to be done to make it as good an experience as we have with TypeScript today.
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:00 PMYeah, my main concern is: can we deliver a not terrible experience in Go.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:00 PMI don’t want people to try it and think it sucks.
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:12 PMAnecdotally I know of people who have tried Pulumi with Go and not seen the big deal. When pushed to try TypeScript instead they suddenly “get it”
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:13 PMI believe that will be the common case until Go 2.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:14 PMPersonally.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:14 PMLike all PL opinions this is 100% unscientific.
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:14 PMHah yes. It does seem that the lack of sum types is a big problem for Go and the style required by Pulumi
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:15 PMThat’s exactly right. Actually for better or worse, I believe we are basically only theoretically multi-language. Our TS support is by far the most mature and (IMO) most compelling, and I can’t see how that will change.
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:16 PMI think there are other languages with a lot of potential: namely F# and Kotlin
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:16 PMMaybe when Go2 ships, that will change, and that would be nice.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:16 PMha ha as a person who wrote a Python 3 compiler in Haskell for fun, I actually agree with that, but I don’t think people will use it. 🙂
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:20 PMHmmm, Haskell support might be interesting 🤔
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:21 PMIt would be pretty cool IMO.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:21 PMIt would be more awkward in some ways for k8s, as record literals are more awkward than JSON literals in TS.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:22 PMThere’s also a bunch of stuff that is better suited to imperative languages, like shelling out
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:23 PMI can see that. TypeScript has a nice tradeoff between rigour and flexibility that this kind of thing wants
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:24 PMThe biggest advantage is real pattern matching, which makes it far easier to write “verbs” like “expose this pod” and stuff
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:24 PMHaskell is basically a DSL for tree-walking.
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:25 PMI’m not sure there is a really useful core set of combinators, so I’m not sure how much mileage you’d get out of monads.
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straight-cartoon-74589
09/12/2018, 10:28 PMI almost feel like having ts really solid with lots of examples would be better than lots of languages with partial engine support
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:28 PMI completely agree.
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stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:29 PMI tend to agree also, especially given that there are lots of helper libraries and `ComponentResource`s etc
stocky-spoon-28903
09/12/2018, 10:29 PMThe one I really want to do (and have in progress) is HCL however, so that Terraform configuration can be run unmodfied
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:34 PMcc @microscopic-florist-22719
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microscopic-florist-22719
09/12/2018, 10:34 PM
Yep, already aware 🙂
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creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:34 PMlol
creamy-potato-29402
09/12/2018, 10:35 PM@stocky-spoon-28903 I was thinking of defining a set of Babel extensions that restrict JS to a customizable subset (e.g., conditional or not, loops or not). That way, opsy people can start with no-code and flip the switch if they ever need to.