Somebody just sent me a link to Pulumi, looks very good, like terrafrom but without horrible DSL that does not do what you want. However it appears that app.pulumi.com is not open source, and "it is possible to use Pulumi without the service, which works a lot more like Terraform, but it is harder to do and opt-in", so basically this is a vendor lock in, right? No option to run a version of app.pulumi.com locally without getting inferior results?

@tall-army-76869 yes. https://pulumi.io/reference/state.html

Right. Got it. Thanks.

It’s hard to say what’s “inferior” without saying more about your use case. If you’re just managing personal stacks that don’t really require org-level stuff like RBAC, that’s free, and the experience shoudl be basically as good as if you paid for it as part of an organization.

I understand. Thank you for explaining that. I have not seen this link you sent above before, and it does a decent job explaining how that works.

@tall-army-76869 https://www.pulumi.com/pricing/ is a good place to start, but if you have more feedback please chat with @white-balloon-205 or @gentle-diamond-70147 about it

Thank you, once again

We started looking at Pulumi about a week ago, so we’re in the same boat. There is a PR to use s3 and other cloud storage providers as a backend. https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi/pull/2455 For us, we wanted to use the pulumi service, but it’s astronomically too expensive.

cc @white-balloon-205 @gentle-diamond-70147

@cool-egg-852 we are exploring some pricing changes that I think you'll find more accommodating. I'm already on an email thread with your colleagues to talk about this next week. 🙂

That’s good to hear. Funny story about that, Fernando had forgotten to include you and only replied to Carlos and we kept wondering why you hadn’t replied 😄 Looking forward to speaking with you.

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