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t
What do you see during those 10 minutes? Which OS are you on? Which provider?
b
It just showed full output and then hangs, for 10 mins ,then prints:
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Resources:
    159 unchanged

Duration: 10m20s
Permalink: <https://app.pulumi.com/Nakhoda/gcp-gke/gke01-london/updates/129>
we don't use 
--refresh
and there were no changes apart from added output variable, so it never hit provider (or it shouldn't at least the way I understand they way pulumi works).
t
Interesting. Is it just once or does it happen every time?
b
it is reproducible, I just reran same job on a pipeline, zero changes this time , yet it's been 4 minutes still and looks very slow.it trickles "output" objects one by one once a minutes or so. once finishes I'll rerun same commit but from my dev machine to rule out our CI setup
w
Could you run with 
—logtostderr -v=9
and see if there are any hints of what is taking so long?
b
ha, it exceeded CI job output limit 🙂 if I don't set 
--logtostderr
which file does it log to?
@tall-librarian-49374, checked output, there is a 
Marked old state snapshot as done
record for each resource, which seems to be taking 2.3-2.5 seconds each. we have 165 resources so far, so it quickly adds up and our no-op 
pulumi up
end up running for > 10 minutes
t
Aha! Thanks, I'll ask around.
Could you file an issue for that?
b
doing it now
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t
thank you!
b
@white-balloon-205, @creamy-potato-29402 , this slowness makes us unproductive, can you think of a workaround we can apply to speed it up? maybe convert to local backend do a full run and convert back ? anything would help
w
Looking into it now. Could you share any more of the detailed logs?
b
@white-balloon-205, can send you full logs over email
w
Also - what is the stack name in question?
b
sent, please confirm if you've received it
w
Yes - I got the mail. Will look at that and reply on the issue once we understand what might be causing this.
b
Thanks!
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