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`pulumi up` hangs on `new StackReference(...)` is there any known issue related to this?

there were yet unconfirmed reports of <http://app.pulumi.com|app.pulumi.com> being slow today

for us it is always slow, but for a different reason :slightly_smiling_face:

<@UG53R9UJC> Thank you! Didn’t notice it. But to the point that an empty stack hangs on for 15 minutes?

add `--logtostderr -v=9`  args to see what it might be

I see something like

```
StepExecutor worker(4): step read on urn:pulumi:...::pulumi:pulumi:StackReference::shared retired
```

Actually <http://app.pulumi.com|app.pulumi.com> doesn’t load at all

<@UGA2L4GNB> When you say it doesn't load at all what are you experiencing? Do you get an error? Does it timeout?

<@UGA2L4GNB>, can't confirm, <http://app.pulumi.com|app.pulumi.com> works for me so far

<@UDEJ1F5SQ> It just hangs forever. Doesn’t even timeout. Retries??

BTW, now it’s working back

The Pulumi CLI was doing this? Was is it accessible in your browser?