Hi, I like the concept, but I’d like to know what ...
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brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 11:14 AMHi, I like the concept, but I’d like to know what the web app is for? Is the pulumi script actually creating stuff when I run it or is is pulumi’s backend that does it? If so, why was it built like that?
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white-balloon-205
09/11/2019, 1:07 PM
There are answers to several questions related to this at: https://www.pulumi.com/docs/troubleshooting/faq/#how-does-pulumi-depend-on-pulumi-com.
But to answer your specific question, the
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brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 2:19 PMinteresting, I can see the reasoning, is the backend for pulumi.com opensource so it can be self hosted?
brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 2:34 PMAh I see, that’s the catch, pulumi is not actually open source, it’s open core with just enough paid stuff to lock you in.
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best-xylophone-83824
09/11/2019, 2:37 PMthey manage locking and storing the state, AFAIK there is a local backend for DIY with no feature loss
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brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 3:38 PMSure, but the local backend means you cannot work with other people. So you cannot use this for opensource projects with multiple people handling infrastructure, or share the state across builds in a CD pipeline.
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best-xylophone-83824
09/11/2019, 3:41 PMI can hardly imagine opensource (== public) workflow on infrastructure as a code. Coordination within a closed group is certainly possible , you can checkin state file into Git LFS and then use Git LFS locks to prevent parallel runs. With enough discipline (and easy to use wrappers) should be fairly straightforward, although I never tried myself and went for cheapest paid option.
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brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 3:44 PMwhy not? open infrastructure is a thing, once you find a solution for sharing secrets, it’s even pretty good
brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 3:44 PMI was checking that out for our local NGO which has a hosting budget of 20€/month + Free AWS credit through subsides. pulumi would have been great fit if it was free to use, but I can’t see paying 150€/mo just to handle creating resources
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best-xylophone-83824
09/11/2019, 3:45 PMwhy not? open infrastructure is a thing, once you find a solution for sharing secrets, it’s even pretty goodDo you have an example of such projects on github/gitlab?
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brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 3:49 PMWell, there is ours at least https://github.com/lghs/infra
brainy-appointment-60747
09/11/2019, 3:49 PMI don’t see why infrastructure is different from code in terms of sharing.
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best-xylophone-83824
09/11/2019, 3:54 PMso thats a code, there is nothing runs that code in that open projects. so when I create a PR it wont spin up throwaway stack in cloud and check my changes lets say. there is no need for locking in this setup, as there is nothing gets run automatically
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little-energy-64187
09/23/2019, 3:50 PMhttps://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/concepts/state/#self-managed-backend u can use a bucket for remote state with your team