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# generals
sparse-intern-71089
10/11/2019, 5:26 PMThis message was deleted.
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gentle-diamond-70147
10/11/2019, 5:30 PMHi, what version of node are you running?
gentle-diamond-70147
10/11/2019, 5:30 PMIf you're on Node 12, can you try downgrading to Node 10 (the current LTS version) and see if you get the same issue?
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damp-pillow-67781
10/11/2019, 5:30 PMv12.11.1damp-pillow-67781
10/11/2019, 5:30 PMSure, will try
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damp-book-35965
10/11/2019, 5:42 PMI do think that the docs on the pulumi install page should recommend downloading the LTS version
damp-book-35965
10/11/2019, 5:42 PMIt just says 8+ for now..
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gentle-diamond-70147
10/11/2019, 5:43 PM@damp-book-35965, agreed. I'll open an issue to update.
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damp-pillow-67781
10/11/2019, 5:47 PMyeah downgrading to node 10 fixes it, thanks!
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gentle-diamond-70147
10/11/2019, 5:47 PM@damp-pillow-67781 thanks for confirming!
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/11/2019, 6:05 PMThanks for the report. I'm working on a fix for this now
lemon-spoon-91807
10/11/2019, 6:06 PMit's pri0 for us
lemon-spoon-91807
10/11/2019, 6:06 PMshould hopefully have build you can try out by monday
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white-balloon-205
10/11/2019, 8:24 PM
Just to cross-reference - we are tracking this in https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi/issues/3309.
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:33 PMv12 will be active LTS in just over a week
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:39 PMhi @worried-city-86458 We're working hard on a fix here.
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:39 PMI've got a PR for this here https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi/pull/3325 which should solve the issue entirely for most users.
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:40 PMI’m sure you are. Much appreciated too!
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:40 PMThis is top pri for us, and we hope to have the fix out asap.
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:40 PMWe just want to make totally sure it's really the right approach and best thing for short/medium/long-term health for us and the community 🙂
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:43 PMI’d be happy with async everywhere if / when top-level async (TLA) becomes available
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:43 PMUnderstood
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:43 PMNote: i have a PR to make things nicer in Pulumi prior to that happening
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:44 PMSpecifically: https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi/pull/3321
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:44 PMThis would allow for near top-level
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:44 PMJust hoping the door will stay open for TLA as deasync seemed to be about hiding those details
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:45 PMi love that TLA is itself a TLA (three letter acronym) 😄
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:47 PMIf C# support ever happens then I’d be really happy and expect use of async everywhere
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:47 PMIt looks like V8, Nodejs and TypeScript are all working toward TLA.
V8: https://v8.dev/features/top-level-await
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:47 PMi talked to the TS PM. They wanted it in the latest release, but it slipped slightly. Should be in the next one.
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:47 PMIf C# support ever happens then I’d be really happy and expect use of async everywhere
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:47 PMYup, that's on my plate. And that's my expectation for what would be happening.
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:49 PMCool. Fingers crossed for both TS and C# in future.
worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:50 PMJust needs a library so these envs support launching outside Pulumi CLI so step debugging works.
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:51 PMGood point!
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 9:53 PMSupport for that would be very useful as you can learn a system much faster by debugging into it
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lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:53 PMnote: i'm a personal fan of programs that you pass a debug flag to, and htey basically break at some point and allow you to attach a debuger then
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:54 PMthen you don't have to worry "is this running differently depending on lib form versus cli form"
lemon-spoon-91807
10/12/2019, 9:56 PMbut thanks for all the feedback!
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worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 10:02 PMNo worries. Thanks for listening.
worried-city-86458
10/12/2019, 10:05 PMRe debug flag, that’s what Cake build (C# Make) does.