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You can use stack references for this <https://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/concepts/stack/|https://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/concepts/stack/>

Hmmm , I think I'll need "inter-stack"
<https://www.pulumi.com/docs/intro/concepts/organizing-stacks-projects/#inter-stack-dependencies>

but this does not make sense... how does it work in Self-managed backend is something that I need to reverse engineer