Would folks here recommend Pulumi to handle deploying apps t

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Would folks here recommend Pulumi to handle deploying apps to Kubernetes I m using Helm v2 right now and there s some trouble with upgrading to k8s v1 16 I m not a fan of Helm in general because of the server side components like Tiller and configmaps in `kube system` plus Go templating is horrendous causing me cross my fingers I d rather not try upgrading to Helm v3 as that s likely to break the world and require backups and restore considerations I m wondering if Pulumi is a viable alternative to Helm v3 jsonett ksonett YAML JSON with low brow template system e g envsubst dhall kubernetes TF etc

average-receptionist-65239 · Answer

I am reading <https www pulumi com blog if you liked ksonnet youll love pulumi >

billowy-army-68599 · Answer

hey I personally thik creating a pulumi component resource for your application deployments is much more flexible and approachable than using Helm Having said that pulumi also supports helm without the server side component by templating the charts into YAML and allowing you to perform operations like transforms on them so it replace the server side apply with tiller from helm v2

billowy-army-68599 · Answer

a lot of our customer loves Pulumi for kubernetes application management we get a lot of great feedback about it

creamy-potato-29402 · Answer

< average receptionist 65239> I m biased but I think pulumi is best in class for kubernetes I was a super super early employee at heptio which was founded by 2 3 kube founders and wrote the initial kube support myself

creamy-potato-29402 · Answer

I should say I tried it last a couple months ago when I left to do my own thing and I generally use typescript

ancient-megabyte-79588 · Answer

ancient-megabyte-79588 · Answer

I use Pulumi for all of the k8s resources unless I can t I use some Helm charts because there is no pulumi comparable in some cases and developing my own would be a lot of work read fluentd cert manager nginx

creamy-potato-29402 · Answer

yeah this sucks it s too bad pulumi was later than helm the experience would be IMHO 10x better

ancient-megabyte-79588 · Answer

< creamy potato 29402> It ll just take time and community I don t like duplication like that but if Helm is a PITA to setup and use in CI CD pipelines it may be worth it

ancient-megabyte-79588 · Answer

I think that upgrading big apps in any k8s cluster is non trivial Helm has been very good at standing up large apps in a standard fashion I don t like that different repos stable bitnami etc have different configurations values yaml files but that is a different problem as repositories will compete with each other But that has nothing to do with Helm good vs charts not as good and that is different than kubernetes using ConfigMap to alter application behaviour