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# generals
sparse-intern-71089
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average-receptionist-65239
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billowy-army-68599
06/03/2020, 1:59 AM
hey! I personally thik creating a pulumi component resource for your application deployments is much more flexible and approachable than using Helm. Having said that, pulumi also supports helm without the server side component by templating the charts into YAML and allowing you to perform operations like transforms on them, so it replace the server side apply with tiller from helm v2
billowy-army-68599
06/03/2020, 2:00 AM
a lot of our customer loves Pulumi for kubernetes application management, we get a lot of great feedback about it!
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creamy-potato-29402
06/03/2020, 7:02 AM@average-receptionist-65239 I’m biased, but I think pulumi is best-in-class for kubernetes. (I was a super, super early employee at heptio which was founded by 2/3 kube founders, and wrote the initial kube support myself.)
creamy-potato-29402
06/03/2020, 7:03 AMI should say I tried it last a couple months ago when I left to do my own thing. and, I generally use typescript.
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ancient-megabyte-79588
06/04/2020, 2:31 AMancient-megabyte-79588
06/04/2020, 2:32 AMI use Pulumi for all of the k8s resources unless I can't. I use some Helm charts because there is no pulumi comparable in some cases and developing my own would be a lot of work. (read: fluentd, cert-manager, nginx)
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creamy-potato-29402
06/04/2020, 2:37 AMyeah, this sucks. it’s too bad pulumi was later than helm, the experience would be (IMHO) 10x better.
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ancient-megabyte-79588
06/04/2020, 2:21 PM@creamy-potato-29402 It'll just take time and community. I don't like duplication like that, but if Helm is a PITA to setup and use in CI/CD pipelines, it may be worth it.
ancient-megabyte-79588
06/04/2020, 2:25 PMI think that upgrading big apps in any k8s cluster is non-trivial. Helm has been very good at standing up large apps in a standard fashion. I don't like that different repos (stable, bitnami, etc..) have different configurations (values.yaml files) but that is a different problem as repositories will compete with each other. But that has nothing to do with Helm (good) vs charts (not as good) and that is different than kubernetes (using ConfigMap to alter application behaviour)
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