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For example the last `pulumi up` installing `cert-manager`  v1.4.0 through the helm chart took 45 minutes.

could you open an issue with a repro in <http://github.com/pulumi/pulumi-kubernetes|github.com/pulumi/pulumi-kubernetes> for this

<@UCWG26BH7> for sure tomorrow, I just want to see what is happening with `TF_LOG=TRACE pulumi up --logtostderr -v=9`   for better description