Another question, Azure Application Insight allows...
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r
Another question, Azure Application Insight allows to create an Alerts, from the Azure point of view, every alert is a separate resource, does Pulumi count them as resources as well and so does billing per Application Insight Alert or it does billing per Application Insights resource (so no matter how many alerts do you have it's just single resource)?
b
yes, each resource is distinct and unique, they are billed separately. Azure bills differently to Pulumi
r
That's clear, but the problem I see here is that the Azure price for the alert, in some cases 5 times smaller than the price for the Pulumi to manage it. E.g. azure alert cost 0.10 USD and 0.5 for Pulumi to manage it.
b
right, but that same principle applies to VM scale sets for example. A VM scale set could cost millions of dollars, but it would cost 0.5 in Pulumi. We don't treat resources any differently based on the cloud provider cost, we don't factor that in. its a flat, predictable fee
r
I see your point but still, it does not look good/right, at least for that concrete scenario, e.g. in our case price for Pulumi might be higher than for Azure. It just does not make sense
b
Pulumi pricing is flat and predictable, we don't evaluate pricing of the resource you're managing. Comparing the price in Azure to the price in Pulumi is going to end up creating a lot of inflection points. The value Pulumi providers to manage those resources doesn't change based on the Azure price. If that doesn't feel comfortable to you, our OSS tiers might be more favourable and palatable, but you'll lost the ease of management, flexibility and rbac options that the service brings
It just does not make sense
I would love to understand why it doesn't make sense, other than "I am expecting the price to be less than Azure"
r
Because when price for managing resource 5 times higher that the price for the resource itself it does not make sense
b
Again, why is that?
r
Sorry don't want to argue here, for me it's obvious, thank you for your answers, in our case because of the pricing policy we cannot use Pulumi unfortunately but I liked it and whole idea
b
Thanks for the feedback