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# general

sparse-intern-71089

04/12/2019, 7:31 AM

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gentle-diamond-70147

04/12/2019, 6:48 PM

The SDK and CLI are currently coupled, so you cannot run Pulumi from within another node application.

gentle-diamond-70147

04/12/2019, 6:49 PM

Someone else on the team can articulate it better than me, but the Pulumi "engine" in the CLI is critical to the execution of a Pulumi app.

gentle-diamond-70147

04/12/2019, 6:50 PM

We are exploring ways/ideas of enabling Pulumi to be embedded in other applications, but (I believe) this would be via Golang and isn't a near-term effort.

white-balloon-205

04/12/2019, 7:16 PM

Currently the SDK is coupled to the Pulumi engine, which is loaded from the

pulumi

CLI. The best way today to automate stack operations is to shell out to the

pulumi

CLI. You can of course do that from any language you want. Many CLI commands accept

--json

parameter to provide their results as machine-readable JSON so they can be processed from code. We are looking at options to allow driving deployments directly via the JS/Python/Go SDKs. But our immediate focus is on enabling the CLI to be easily invoked programmatically - as this unlocks the full flexibility of the existing CLI and engine from any language ecosystem (albeit with a little more ceremony).

fast-motherboard-21624

04/13/2019, 4:04 AM

great thanks. that's very helpful!

fast-motherboard-21624

04/13/2019, 4:05 AM

has there been any prior interest in this use case?

white-balloon-205

04/13/2019, 4:10 AM

Yes - this has come up a lot. We’re thinking a lot about ways to streamline this further.

fast-motherboard-21624

04/13/2019, 6:40 PM

are there any discussion/planning issues on gh i can follow/participate in?

gentle-diamond-70147

04/16/2019, 9:57 PM

@fast-motherboard-21624 I believe https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi/issues/2506 is the best issue to subscribe to.

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